Kissinger Sees the World On Verge of Historic Era
By James Reston Special to The New York Times
Sec Kissinger, in int with J Reston over weekend of Oct 5, discusses US foreign policy, its relation to specific countries, eg, USSR and China, to specific issues, eg, world food bank, and to gen pol trends in world; sees world 'delicately poised' on verge of new historic era with next decade being one of great human creativity or beginning of 'extraordinary disarray'; warns of disintegration of Western civilization if nations do not recognize and act on their interdependence; warns of trend to authoritarian govts in West from present crises and natl stress; discusses his job and conditions under which he would leave it, but stresses his int is no 'swan song'; regrets so much of his time in past 5 yrs had to be spent on Vietnam war; says 'real tragedy' has been Watergate, because, at beginning of Nixon's 2d term there was period of potential creativity US was too preoccupied to explore; discusses factor of self interest' in policy but stresses importance of 'purpose'; expresses hopefulness on some points; says Amers have come through crises of last decade, including Watergate, in 'rather good shape'; on his job, says that when he leaves depends on confidence of Pres Ford, about which he says he has no problem, on degree of Cong support and degree of public support; appears troubled about charges he had been deeply involved in CIA operations in Chile; sees need for intelligence operations in other countries but also says there is 'gray area' between exercise of diplomacy and use of force; says such activities should be strictly controlled by Exec, and, to degree possible, by Cong (L)